This week our biggest April fool's joke was saved for the peddlers of ASIC and FPGA mining hardware. RIP, till next time, old friends.
With all the commotion about the next fork upgrade, and the debut of our new hashing algo, CN Turtle, I wanted to make sure everyone has the run down about the fork upgrade before it arrives in a few weeks. Today, I got with IBurnMyCD who has been the lead on this algo and got a short interview about what is CN Turtle and what does it mean to me, both as a miner and a user.
If you’re a miner, a user, or a fan of fine rewritable optical media, I think you’ll enjoy this article. It was a fun interview. If you have any questions, just click this link and join us in the chat, we’re all here waiting on you.
@iburnmycd thanks for taking the time to do this interview. I wanted to get with you to discuss the upcoming fork upgrade in simple terms so our users know what’s in store for them.
First, what is the deal with this fork upgrade and why are we doing this?
Thanks for having me @RockSteady (TRTL). It’s always an honour to help let the community that isn’t in the Discord all the time to catch the latest and greatest news. A while back, the project made the commitment to the community that the project would do its best to remain mineable for as many users as possible. Part of holding to that commitment is investigating, testing, implementing, and upgrading the Proof of Work used by the project. We’ve done this with experimenting with CN Soft Shell that a few forks of TurtleCoin have implemented and again with CN Turtle that we’re forking to at block 1,200,000. This upgrade is designed to help keep the project mineable for everyone by reducing the resource requirements necessary to mine. As a result, everyone will see higher hash rates which also means that there is a higher chance of solving a block as each miner will be producing hashes noticeably faster. However, there will be more hashes required (on average) to find a block. Our hope is that in the larger scope of things, this works out to be a win for the the littlest miners.
You mentioned our miners will be mining faster, what does that translate to for someone who has 100H/s of CPU power or another person who has 100H/s of GPU power?
Based on testing, we estimate that miners will see on average an increase of anywhere between 3.0x and 4.0x for CPUs and 2.0x to 3.0x on GPUs. Personally, on my hardware I’ve observed a 3.8x increase on my CPU (AMD 1950x) and 2.8x on my GPU (AMD Vega64). However, not every CPU and GPU performs the same so the increase may be more or less than what we’ve observed. Variations in drivers, the mining software used, etc may result in higher or lower increases; however, what we can all agree on is that miners will see an increase in hashrate, no matter how small, due to the lower resource requirement and iteration count. On average a miner who was seeing 100H/s on CPU may see approximately 350H/s and a miner seeing 100H/s on GPU may see approximately 250H/s after the upgrade takes effect.
That’s great news. Let’s say you’re a miner, what do you need to do to be ready? Are most major miners already ready to work? And what if you’re just a user, do you have to do anything?
That depends on how you mine 🙂 If you’re a solo miner and you use the miner binary distributed with the project, you’ll need only upgrade to v0.12.0 once it’s released. The miner software will automatically switch to the new PoW algorithm when it’s time. If you’re mining with a pool, you’ll need to contact the pool operator or check their website to verify that they have upgraded their pool software for the upgrade. If they haven’t, you might want to give them a gentle reminder that they need to do so. In addition, you’ll want to make sure that you have the latest release of your favorite mining software. For instance, we’ve released the necessary updates for xmr-stak via trtl-stak (https://github.com/turtlecoin/trtl-stak/releases/latest) that has the updated algorithm available as cryptonight_turtle. In the coming weeks, we’ll submit a pull request to the main xmr-stak repo to support the change. We’re still working the kinks out of the automatic algorithm switch in the package but in the event we don’t work that in, a miner need only manually switch the algorithm, delete their CPU & GPU configs, and let the software do the rest. We’re still working on adding support into XMRig and hope to have that completed before the network upgrade. We’ve also received information that SRBminer has also implemented the algorithm. Users of that mining software will need to switch the algorithm over when it’s time. Everyone, miners or not, need to keep their eyes out for the v0.12.0 release of the project. Service Operators, home users, pool operators, and other services will need to upgrade to v0.12.0 well ahead of block 1,200,000 to be ready for the upgrade. For most users, this upgrade will be like any other upgrade that we’ve done where you drop the new version in and you’re good to go.
Whats the best way to see how long we have before the upgrade takes effect?
The quickest and fastest way is to head on over to the official block explorer at https://explorer.turtlecoin.lol/ In the Network Stats area, you’ll see an area that says Next Network Upgrade In (est.) with the approximate number of days, hours, minutes, and seconds until the next network upgrade.
Thanks for taking a second to tell us about the fork upgrade, is there anything else you wanted to add?
If you’re reading this and you are not on Discord, you should be. We’d love to have you. It’s the only way to get a real feel for the project and meet all the different personalities. If you want to help out, there’s plenty of different areas to check out from development, education, marketing, international groups, and everything in between. Discord is the best place to meet other cryptocurrency developers who share a passion for the technology and their projects. Besides, where else can you learn about codename Chukwa?
This Christmas we received the blessing of the community’s progress and our mutual friendship with other networks. TurtleCoin users are quickly becoming the most helpful crew in the industry, and that’s a hat we are happy to wear any time 😀
Here’s to another great year, and a good time this New Year for all of our new friends who’ve just joined us!
Core Update at block 1,200,000 !! Miners! Service Operators! Users! This is your update! Tell a friend!
1,200,000 – This update is a big one, and unlike our normal fork upgrade schedule, this one packs a little bit more of a punch than others in the sense that we have a new hashing algo variant we’ve been working on called CN Turtle. This new algo affects miners two different ways, GPU miners will see about a 4x increase in power, and CPU miners will see about a 6x increase in power. This just means more heat for most of you but for us it means another upgrade without ASIC, and for the first time it means TurtleCoin is branching out from just using whatever Monero and Aeon use. We’re doubling down on our commitment against Nicehash and ASIC, and have already started research on the next PoW change for when that time comes. Everyone probably also wondering, but if you’re on XMR Stak or XMRig, you’re fine, with more compatibility for others coming soon. – TRTL Core Team
This wall of text means one thing- We’ve got you covered. This is our commitment to a 2019 without ASIC.
solo miner improvements – If you’ve ever used the solo miner, you might know it’s a little ‘meh’. You need to know all the arguments to start the miner with, it doesn’t even output barely anything on the default log level, and the output is pretty verbose. One thing you might not be aware of is it actually by default only scans for a new block template every 30 seconds. So, a lot of the time you might be mining on an old block template when the daemon already has a newer template. This fixes that issue, so there should be a lot less orphans. Annoyingly, the windows network stack seems to hold open the closed connections for some time, so polling for a new template every second can end up exhausting the available sockets. I’m working on a fix for this by reusing the same connection. I know most people don’t use the solo miner, but this should help out projects which fork TurtleCoin and don’t have any pools up yet. – zpalm
Oiboo’s Game Emporium – Merry christmas and Seasons greetings to all! Thank you for your support this year. So far we have 11 amazing games made by our community! Well done everyone! I have nearly finished the tutorial section of the website, so hopefully we will have loads more games next year! As always any ideas you have or if you have a project you want featured email me @ info@Games.Turtacus.com or message me in #Dev_Gaming Oiboo – oiboo
New Turtle Game – I’ve started gitting gud with Godot game engine, following guides and exploring uncharted lands! Me and bunny will be working on new turtle games, coming out sometime 2019. Stay tuned! – Sajo8
Do you run a TRTL fork, or are you part of a fork community? Take a second to tell us a bit about your fork and get some exposure for your project!
Name of your TRTL fork :
Github link for your code:
What is special or new about your network?
The DeroGold Association is the future of crypto today and we welcome you aboard. An open source project since block number 1, DeroGold plans to be one of the most illustrious cryptocurrencies ever. Forking our coin from TurtleCoin and using their new CN-TURTLE hashing algorithm will be instrumental in helping us to achieve this goal.
Some specs of DeroGold include 100 trillion max supply, only 2 decimals, 10 second blocks, cutting-edge lite-blocks, and a wallet prefix of dg. It has been said to be very reminiscent of the early TurtleCoin days, since we have a low nethash and large block rewards with a lot of questions about our huuuuge supply.
Join our discord to learn more about us: http://derogold.gq
Special thanks to RockSteady, Zpalmtree, ExtraHash, and Bearybullish for their contributions toward the making of this cryptocurrency, I appreciate y’alls help.
Name of your TRTL fork:
Github link for your code:
What is special or new about your network?
High Fee, Low Emission -> No inflation but mining is still “worth it”. New hash algorithm to assure satoshis vision will be realised Scalable Blockchain (coming soon)
Good news everyone! If you’re mining TurtleCoin with us at Cryptonote.Social, you’re now also (solo) mining Aeon through the wonders of “merged mining”. For now if you’re lucky enough to mine an Aeon block, you get to collect the full reward. Make sure you specify an e-mail address in your miner config so you’ll be notified of any Aeon blocks you mine.
The NibbleClassic Faucet has launched! Come and have a little nibble!
Shoutouts & Thanks
anon – shoutout to kev and beary for being awesome
sups – A thank you to everyone
soregums – Kudos to rashedmyt for lite blocks feature
morpheus – Merry Christmas to One and All! May your holiday be filled with warmth and cheer, and all the best of luck and good fortune for 2019.
rogerrobers – Shoutout zpalmtree :3
sups – Massive thank you to KSupremex#5671 for putting together the “How to” videos for NibbleClassic! Absolute star!
japakar – Best. Discord. Ever. Best. Coin. Ever.
gobble – Merry Christmas, eat, play, drink hard. Enjoy your time with mates and family. Crank up the volume on them Christmas Carols and enjoy the smiles on your kids faces. Build a snowman if you’re in the cold, but if you’re in the heat, put ya boardies on and bomb dive the pool, drink them beers, spread the cheers! (ps. eat bunnies not turkeys)
See you all next year 😀 – rock